III is distinguished by the addition of the grip safety but otherwise is the same as Mod. 'Izarra' Pistola Automtica Bonifacio Echeverra Eibar, Spain No. Llama Firearms Serial Number Lookup Automatic pistols made by Gabilondo from 1914 to 1933 were based on Browning F.N. Browning caliber, original blowback style, dating from about 193'31934, first issued without model designation, with factory catalog designation No. This intriguing book focuses on the ninja's techniques and training. 175. The frame and slide of the M82 are made from steel, so the gun is relatively heavy, but strong. It is a recoil operated, locked breech semi automatic pistol. Looking mostly for the model IV, VII, VIand the Ruby 45 even as a parts gun but will consider anything. ' r nn< . II.-This 9 mm. Advertisement. 508, 11.! I . Model: "LLAMA" ESPECIAL Serial Number: 277547 Caliber Info: 32 ACP Condition: VERY GOOD Metal Condition: VERY GOOD Wood Condition: EXCELLENT Bore Condition: EXCELLENT Barrel Type: 3 3/4 Action: SEMI AUTO Finish: BLUE Sights: OPEN Item Location: RI See all listings by RUDIM6 Print this listing Offered with black or pearl grips in chrome or blue. Even then the amount of time and resources required is a pretty big deal. FREE Military Tough 6-in-1 Tactical Survival Knife, Free 2nd Amendment Gun Rights Silver Coin, Green Beret Master Sergeant Home Security Checklist, Winning Plays Texted To Your Phone That Comes Directly From An Elite Team Of Sharps, Gabilondo pistols - Firearms identification, High Standard Pistols - Firearms identification. Why this ever got out of the factory is a mystery to everyone. It has a lanyard ring, arched mainspring housing and checkered wood grips with no Llama medallion. Marlin Firearms. : :ri i ! It is still in production. Hopefully I'm in the right forum. The safety does not affect the slide, so it can be cycled and the cartridge chambered with the safety on, but the hammer will not stay in the cocked position. 1911A1, but without the grip safety, and in 9 mm. i , I i 'l i I , 'I ., i I I ' fiM iiin.l.,3! I am especially interested in the model IX .45 cal and VII 9mm P. All are early guns produced before 1955. If you would like to contribute your model number, serial number and date code to this data base let me know. i f t 11 t aTaf o iIt 1 *t t^TI tn I, No. X. Mod. To order a gun with a custom serial number, please have your FFL Firearms Dealer contact us at 1-800-821-5783 and ask for Jessica. It is a wonderful gun that is totally reliable and very accurate. It appears to be identical to Mod. It has no dovetail for the rear sight and both sights are silver soldered on, so it almost has to be Llama made entirely. 11 M', No. This They are solid shooters except for the MiniMax II SC model. 67,567. Purdey. My wife has a Llama .380 she inherited from her step-father. It did not come with a box so I have no idea how it was classified when it originally sold. In the picture above, the square is actually the letter 'D' but in this case, the edge of the die has left an impression on the pistols frame and the stamp looks like a square. If you advertise "looking for Blastomatic Model 11" with the specific serial number, you might find the current owner. The LLAMA-GABILONDO Y CIA VIORIA(ESPANA) a was used on current production firearms before LLama itself went out of buisness The last production of LLAMA handguns was by Bersa out of Argentina If you do a Google search of Stoeger and read the Wikipedia entry on the company and do the . This pistol is in good condition and comes with one magazine. However, factory literature of 1936-39 shows this model in .45 cal. QUOTE=larryh11Hi Bill, Welcome to the forum! The second series had the detent spring tube with coil spring and used the same frame. I had a guy offer me a llama 380 with three mags for $200. On the flat plate on the bottom of the gun, just rear of where the magazine is inserted, look for a letter, set of letters or a word. There are 3 on a typical commerical arm, and four on a typical military arm. Eibar, Spain. As a result of this only Astra continued to make guns after that territory was taken over by the Nationalists. Thanks for the link. Mod. The markings in the picture on the left are as follows,GABILONDO Y CIA. A278), order number (i.e. 'Le Secours' Marketed by Garate, Anitua y Cia. Thank you. Any ideas? The right place to find all older Star pistol model numbers is on the butt, as seen in the illustrations below and photo to the right. Short version of the Mod. X. Mod. For instance, my. Then in the 1980's the firm introduced a new line of pistols that were more modern in both design and function. You can e. 1111 > 'i^lll >', fni'Tf-' ' , ' .f1.!!.!,. After the Spanish civil war theGABILONDO companymoved its facilities to Vitoria, Spain where they continued to produced handguns under the Llama trade name. III.-This was a 9 mm. To identify the make and model of these guns, dig around the manufacturer . I except for magazine capacity. The next and last stamp is the date code. The codes began with A in 1927, and after reaching Z in 1954, continued with A1 in 1955. iT : ! Mod. No one seems to know anything. Likewise, the year 1981 was represented with the code A2. It may be a special variant of the Mod. I was identical to Mod. iflilimtT' ' f ^ I I I I< j 1:' I 1I'' 'J IM''. Search the Handgun Database X Use this form to search our database for handgun specifications, information and market values. They are usually on and/or near the front of the trigger guard. 2. IX-A.-This is the .45 ACP caliber, to which a grip safety was added immediately following World War II. I think the deep relief engraving was discontinued at this time because it does not show up in my catalog. Simply input the gun's serial number into the search field to see if your weapon is listed. 226 Williams Ln. IV and is, therefore, the original Llama pistol, manufacture of which dates from 1932. These copies of the 1911 style pistols were manufacturedwith great quality and care and have been sold around the world. Officers were to furnish their own guns so many Llamas were sold, although I have only seen one large caliber gun with the Geco mark. V.-Made in 9 mm. Llama Serial Number Lookup Llama Firearms , officially known as Llama-Gabilondo y Cia SA , was a Spanish arms company founded in 1904 under the name Gabilondo and Urresti . It was a well made gun with fair tolerances, so parts were interchangeable within its own brand. This pistol is still in production. My last question: any idea on value? For example, with a gun serial number of 331-12345, just enter 331. Llama pistols built before 1936 will have slide markings that reads GABILONDO Y CIA. Parabellum, 9 mm. 1911A1 Colt. Llama 32 Serial Number Lookup The photograph on the left is a picture of the right side of the receiver just above the trigger. Browning caliber, original blowback style, dating from about 193'31934, first issued without model designation, with factory catalog designation No. Second Media Corp., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. Llama IIIA- Series 2 variation 1 .380 acp, locked breech, 165mm overall length with two vents in the rib. VII, but with the addition of a grip safety. I'll take and post photos if that will help. T; I : t: I! Langenhan Zella-Mehlis, Germany No. This is purely a conjecture. Again, speculation. Given this, I could assume my Llama was made in 1971. Last edited by nailcreek; 27th March 2005 at 16:01 . The Extra refers to the extra 1/2 inch length of the barrel as it did in the Ruby Extra. The demand of new LLAMA AUTO 45 pistol's has risen 1 units over the past 12 months. On the plus side, every marking on a firearm will help to tell us its history and this importers mark is no different. If it has a copyright let me know and I will remove it. In 1954 the XA changed to have the rounded back on the frame and grips as well as a magazine that was large base. As follower of the group you will receive email notifications of events in the group. ACP only. The cost is $175.00 for custom serial numbers on Guardian pistols and $150 for Mini-Revolvers. Several styles of grip pieces and markings have been noted. While in the Photograph on the right the slide is stamped LLAMA CAL. 73214. Llama model 87 Competition 9mm, 40 SW and 7.65 P. This gun is much the same as the model 82 but, so I am told, was built under contract by Beretta for Llama. 331 7.65 mm. Mod. Possibly more but the other one I have seen. Mossberg did not put serial numbers on most long guns until 1968 (GCA 1968 required them) Parker Brothers Serial Numbers and Grades. Some details concerning the various Llama models are as given below. The double stack magazine holds 15 rounds plus one in the chamber. It has a double grip safety. Right side of frame has serial no#208131. It is a full-size reproduction of the Colt-Browning recoil-operated pistol Mod. Langenhan Zella-Mehlis, Germany No. Regards, Cal44. For some reason this first model produced later was designated Model IV. I've had several and the quality is suspect, at best. I 111 IJ . This import stamp reads as follows, 'STOEGER INDUSTRIES' and then underneath that is 'S. The used value of a LLAMA AUTO 45 pistol has fallen $0.00 dollars over the past 12 months to a price of $374.18 . Fig. Hi, I am trying to find out the year on a recently purchased Llama .380. I Gabilondo y Cia. Stoger as a firearms importer went out of buisness long ago, The name is used today by a publishing company. 529. The date codes 1911. 'I >.>ltll7llll'tt'7' ll 11 I^i I Ullllji^ I tlimjUl i|l IHI^ni^Hn^m m I^i IH mi^i nj i : 11, 'l^p111 Mii|><| ' J^^j*1 '1 *|1111IJ!^1 *i '1 '1 1JI * *i mn11*11 Ji j^i tiji 11 ** jj, 1,111111 > I' 111111 ' 111111 fi 111111111111111' 111111111, i, i, I*, 11 il' i ill III lili il il' lilil lilil I iHlilllllllil ilil'llllhll III i l'i I ,h I i i- i < i ' i ' i i i ' i ' i i ' i i ^ . The stampings that are on the frame in the picture on the right are proof marks and year of manufacture marks. 325 7.65 mm. I suppose in an effort to reduce costs they decided not to use the locked breech system found on earlier guns. ,.,.. Largo (Bergmann) and .38 ACP calibers. moscs 2 i -4. , s. t r.rir, IIMlllMlllllllllllllllltlllltlllllllltllllllllllllllllllllllllllMllllllllltlllllllllllilMllilllil J11111I' If If I ft 11 llllt tl ll I (|! In 1931 it was decided to modernize their line by undertaking the manufacture of the external hammer, recoil-operated system originally designed by Browning and used by Colt and the Fabrique Nationale. It seemed like the correct forum for the post as there were other posts related to the weapon already present there. K . The Logo on the grips is BC not GB for Gregorio Bolumburu as some report it to be. This was prior to the 68 GCA so no import marks were required along with the fact that Interarms was a CIA operation. Blow back operated, 5 shot mag,2 3/8" barrel, 4 3/4" overall length, 13 3/4oz. 36228, No. Mod. 37272, 'limlll^'llltlM^lHl!,!^ I* 1 imlllTltfllTltU li mTt I nil', 1 i' I' I ' '(|' 1 1 I' ' 1 I' ' 1 11 ' ' ' ' 11' 1 11 ' 111 I 1 I ' I 1 ' ' I ' ' 1 I 11 1 I' I 1 I ' |' I ' M |, I! iflilimtT' ' f ^ I