5. Broken, bitten, maimed and cut. The facility is also under observation from the. If you join them it is either an early grave, or hatred by everyone (bye bye Vegas!) Powder Gangers are members of the Powder Gangers living in the Mojave Wasteland in Fallout: New Vegas . The dialogue option to report dropping the radioactive waste will override the first and Astor will act as if the radioactive waste was dropped while the Legion was still present.). Visitors centerNCR CF administrationCell block ACell block B This gives you access to a Gangers merchant before the assault and then you can wrap up Ghost Town Gunfight 75% off all statistics are made up on the spot Fighting Deathclaws when you're at LOW level <: P, I fought the law without losing reputation. Press J to jump to the feed. Dynamite is only good with perk but for my, I prefer frag or plasma grenades. Warden's terminal Some will make certain people hate you, and some will allow certain people to trust you. Fame is positive and Infamy is negative. Always alone? Completing quests, helping people, and generally making oneself useful will result in accumulating positive reputation points. If loading a save is not an option, there are only 3 quests which let you gain Novac fame in order to get back to . The Version table provides details related to the release that this issue/RFE will be addressed. The reputations are listed below in alphabetic order. Just run away if you happen to get in to the fight with them. Support items like the NCR Emergency Radio will also become useless, and faction privileges like the McCarran monorail will be lost. I did the mission in the first town where you kill all the powder gangers, not realizing that it would have repercussions, and now I'm vilified by the gang. The only way to save Goodsprings and still be able to walk into the NCRCF is to never take part in the fight, let the townsfolk kill all gang members. The largest post-nuclear nation state offers plenty of opportunities for good people to shine and brutal retaliation to its enemies. In other words, while it is possible to move from 'Hated' to 'Sneering Punk', then 'Unpredictable', then 'Dark Hero' by doing more and more good deeds while avoiding bad ones, there is no permanent way to move from 'Hated' back to 'Neutral' or from 'Hated' to 'Idolized.' However, upon equipping an NCR faction armor/clothing, there is a chance reputation will reset back to neutral again. Fallout Wiki is a FANDOM Games Community. Privacy Policy. All rights reserved. Other than it being the starting area of the game it's pretty boring imo. What happened was is I sided with good springs at the beginning and killed all the other guys, then after being vilified I used console commands to set my rep with them to neutral and when that didn't work, idolized. Unless provoked they will not attack you yet. It is affected by positive and negative deeds that affect the faction in question, such as completing quests or killing members, respectively. Fallout: New Vegas. Positive reputation yields the following: The military order is quite a bit demanding when it comes to establishing one's reputation with them. Joe Cobb): Why did the NCR think it was a good idea to give convicts dynamite and to send a felon from their jail in California that is known for using explosives to commit crimes to the Mojave jail that was undermanned? or having Idolized reputation), they will never become friendly to the Courier again. Behind the scenes The NCR Correctional Facility is based on the real life location of Southern Nevada Correctional Center, an abandoned prison in Jean, Nevada. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Also I tried a disguise but it didnt work. Mister Holdout will sell weapons to the player character at a discount price. Saying Nipton "got what was coming to them" when first accepting the aforementioned quest from Vulpes (+1). In both of these cases, the entrance remains locked from the inside, however. Or alienate them. The following is based on Fallout: New Vegas cut content. Several Powder Gangers mill about the yard, and several are posted at the tops of the towers. He even ask for the pardon and he want to protect primm from any harm by his frontier justice and put on the sheriff's uniform to make things cooler. If you manage to kill somebody while sneaking, your relation do not suffer. Weird. He can unlock the door for a price of 100 caps. But their mines are good tho. For Fallout: New Vegas on the Xbox 360, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Shunned from Mojave Outpost and Vicki and Vance Casino in Primm". The New California Republic Correctional Facility (commonly abbreviated to NCR Correctional Facility or NCRCF) and known before the war as the Jean Conservancy,[Non-game 1] was an NCR prison located southeast of Goodsprings that currently acts as the main settlement of the Powder Gangers and a staging point for raiding the local area in 2281. Only "Shunned" by Powder Gangers after Ghost Town Gunfight Everytime I've done this quest (quite a few times) I've always ended up "Vilified" with the Power Gangers, but in my current play through I've only become "Shunned." . Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America). AnotherGuy18 6 yr. ago. Only chance probably is to use stealthboys to get to Eddie. Upon entering the facility through the front door, one will find themself in the visitor's center, a lounge-like area with tables, a desk, a first-aid box and a counter with a broken terminal on it. Reputation is separated into two categories: Fame and Infamy. Krystal Wilson. You can always try to wear a PG outfit and sneak in that way to the prison and talk to the leader in the Admin building. By far the easiest way is to load an earlier save. My current playthrough has that bug with the Legion. Great for those who prefer to sling their dynamite than getting up close and personal. Mister Holdout will sell weapons to the player character at an inflated price. I see so many ppl on here w/ reputation bugs (myself included)I wish an official fix would come out soon. If the player character has a Liked reputation and helps out enough with the Boomers, they will be offered to raise the. Then complete quests and earn Fame which will increase from neutral and go up, but only so long as one is wearing that faction's armor. Mercy killing the NCR trooper hostages (+2). ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. The powder gangers residing at the prison just want freedom and to be left alone while the NCR want control. So releasing and turning the non-violent offenders into deputies under Meyers and supervision would have made more sense. Fallout: New Vegas. Not all convicts are evil and malicious they just happen to be on the wrong side of the law, misguidance or they were setup and or given an unfair trial by corrupt and or incompetent governing. Think of it as wanting to get an inside "recon" of the NCRCF before joining the NCR on an assault of the prison. 000E19D6 (exterior)0008D516 (admin)0008D0FA (cell block A)0008D48E (cell block B)0008D0D5 (visitors center) Rebuilding to a neutral reputation status (black on table above) will allow for Boone to be recruited as a companion again, despite his possible angered departure beforehand which caused him to leave. NCR Correctional Facility Choosing to spread the new power equally across the entire Vegas grid (+12). First time through if you shot at me you died so obviously I wasnt friendly with the gangers. This mod only alters a single entry, the Goodsprings Powder Ganger faction, and it only alters one setting of the entry. Compatibility Even after siding with the NCR and retaking the prison, the alarm will continue to sound. They can kill him without incurring the wrath of the other gang members and enter the facility. Disguises are only available for the five big factions (Brotherhood, Legion, Khans, NCR, and Powder Gangers) and, as such, only mask the standing with those five factions. Some think that the reset of reputation is caused by committing an infamous act towards a faction while wearing that faction's clothing. Stealing chems on the table in the warden's office gives the player character infamy with the Powder Gangers, even if they are all dead. One of the many mining car collections found in the facility, State prison sign before the turn off to the NCRCF. I am Villified, but no matter how many of them I kill they only stay hostile so long as I'm in combat with them. Eddie dies under any circumstance, which will happen as part of the, The only exception to this is if Eddie dies during the NCR attack on the, Turning in Vault suits as part of the quest, The skill check required to do this can be bypassed by never mentioning that the White Glove Society was behind, Complete Beyond The Beef by either failing to convince, or encouraging, Heck Gunderson's proposed embargo of his meat products for the Strip after he learns that the White Glove Society was behind his. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. I can't remember if he can see through the disguise or if its just the door guard so you may need to talk to him quick before he becomes hostile. At least one remaining brahmin was saved (+4). Even if the player character's reputation is neutral, if they have sided with the. Huh. I also play with an alternate start mod, so that helps. Once the dialogue is complete, check the Pip-Boy. Unlike other mods that add in new races or genders to the Powder Gangers, this mod comes with fully voiced dialogue for these Femgangers that not only reacts to nearby events occurring, such as a named Ganger dying or Quarry Junction being cleared out or Hidden Valley blowing up, but also sound right at home with a criminal. I never saw much reforming around here, myself. New California Republic Correctional Facility, NCR Correctional Facility terminal entries, Warden's Terminal, Guard transfers to the east, Fallout: New Vegas Official Game Guide faction profiles, Fallout: New Vegas Official Game Guide Collector's Edition Tour of the Mojave Wasteland. Where do you find the key for the 2nd floor of the broadcast building at Black Mountain? The Powder Gangers is a dead end. Are there anyways i can earn fame with the powder gangers? Since there really isn't anything left to do there after the battle, it couldn't hurt. Similar to this, one can "sit" in one of the outhouses in the southwest corner from outside the fence, effectively teleporting them inside the facility. I don't think they attack you until you've been villified. Link: https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/I_Fought_the_LawFallout New Vegas I Fought the Law (Powder Ganger) Quest Walkthrough But there is something weird here. Negative reputation yields the following: The nomadic army from the East is notoriously hard to impress, but incredibly easy to offend. ? Restoring a neutral reputation status (black on table above) will allow for Veronica being recruited as a companion again. Joined: Sat Jan 20, 2007 6:58 pm. taking the prison for the NCR or holding the prison for the Powder Gangers. Unresolved: Release in which this issue/RFE will be addressed. No idea if that was really intended, but it feels like a bug. Offer additions to the Boomer school curriculum for the. Fame/Infamy are tracked independently of each other. You get a lot more caps if doing the Goodsprings side, 100 caps initially, 150 when you meet Ringo at Crimson Caravan. The Powder Gangers are hostile toward me. Though not active in game, it is included for the sake of completeness. If you talk to the guy at the door he should let you in for a hundred caps or something with a disquise. This is because the Courier's reputation with them will drop to the lowest rank possible (like Idolized to Wild Child or Liked to Soft-Hearted Devil). Other reputations are unaffected. So I became Shunned to the NCR and expected that the next time I ran into one of them I would immediately be attacked, but to my surprise I wasnt. If Veronica had never been interacted with before becoming. Complete Andy and Charlie by passing the 60. and they're playing poker! Its a bit more nuanced than that but basically if you shot them you're done, if you didn't you can bring it back. Powder gangers attack me even though idolized at base. You Have Been Warned. You can actually do all of Eddie's requests without killing anyone, so no karma issues. If you managed to get yourself vilified, you out of luck. Thanks everyone for all the info. Normal jumpsuit worn with scavenged clothing and equipment from the unfortunate travelers who came across our dear friends at the correctional facility. Short of either eliminating them entirely or using console commands, probably not. They only have 2 quests to gain relation with them and if you side with Goodsprings it's really hard to even do the second one (not that doing it would make them hate you much less). The game is good the story line is good but seriouslythe bugs and there are a LOT are starting to piss me off. The benefits and drawbacks of any given reputation depend on the group itself. Here's the thing about stealing: Don't get caught. -Find Vault 19 and complete the quest there. Yet again large over-regulated irresponsible government failing. Best. Scout Primm and learn of the NCR's plans (+1). Community Forum Software by IP.BoardLicensed to: Nexus Mods. The Gangers are violent and hate the NCR with a passion. Hey all, I'm no new player to fallout but I've had a problem crop up. I Fought the LawMy Kind of TownEddie's Emissary Let or help the NCR wipe out the Great Khans without persuading them to release the hostages first (+4). Once the Boomers are turned hostile via combat (even after completing Volare! In cell block B just above the outside entrance, a sign reads "cell block K Z." Tai Scott. Performed surgery successfully by passing a 9, Reporting to Colonel Moore or Mr. House that the Omertas have been dealt with in, Speaking to Caesar after completing either, Caesar dies in any circumstance, except during his operation in. Should the player character approach Dawes in disguise, he will notice that they are not an actual Powder Ganger and tell them so. As part of this quest, bands of Legion assassins will attack the player at, Admiring the purity of the Legion's justice when first accepting. Complete How Little We Know by assisting Big Sal at Gomorrah in his preparations to stage an uprising on the Strip for Caesar (-12). For Fallout: New Vegas on the Xbox 360, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Can anyone help with Powder Gangers and NCR early on?". Killing people affiliated with a given faction or town openly (-30 each). The ranges of reputation vary by faction. However, after hearing his offer, choosing to ignore it will not provoke any altercation. Whether or not the Courier has provoked Powder Gangers elsewhere, the Powder Gangers here are not hostile unless the player character has established a negative reputation with the faction overall. (Many cops in real life are facing the same judgement too.) Plenty of things to do in good ol' Novac to impress the locals. Persuade the Great Khans to release the hostages and then tell the NCR to honor the agreement to escort them back to. The jail was understaffed. And if the player character is 'Idolized', they move down the chart to 'Wild Child'. [Non-game 1][5] When the NCR occupied the Mojave, it was commandeered to house prisoners on a work-release program. I never talk to Trudy, and don't even enter the saloon. That would allow you to do the NCRCF quests more easily whichever way you want to proceed. I think with the NCR what people are saying is right: Shunned isn't enough for them to shoot on sight. This will knock your infamy up to a level where they won't be hostile to you yet. Manage all your favorite fandoms in one place! I swore that this time around I wouldn't kill any of them, except in the Goodsprings thing, but I just can't help myself from killing every single one of them. He is not a Powder Ganger and says he is only staying there to serve out his sentence out of respect to the NCR. Vilified by Powder Gangers, is this bad? If any neutral (black in table above), but positive reputation holds the majority, followed by a 50, If any neutral (black in table above), but positive reputation holds the majority, the Legion will also provide various items within supply boxes outside of. The first task is to "take care" of a Powder Ganger named Chavez, who Eddie believes is setting up his own crew without permission. If you help the Powder Gangers you get an easy source of explosives and reloading powder, a safe road to Primm, several easy starting missions to get you some caps, a discount in the Good Springs store, easy access to Meyers, etc. Not only are they the lowest level of raider, they get [censored] over the fastest. Helping them is way better than help good springs. All Discussions Screenshots Artwork Broadcasts Videos News Guides Reviews . Carter Merchants Completing Ghost Town Gunfight should now only make you shunned by the Powder Gangers which is caused by completion of the quest and not the death of the Joe Cobb. [Non-game 1] The prisoner population dispersed, with some following Cooke into Vault 19, and others staying with Eddie as Powder Gangers, and established camps around the correction facility. The leader Pearl predicted that one day an outsider would get past the defenses of Nellis and help connect the Boomers with the rest of the world, even if "only a little." Powder Gangers love to hold grudges. | Subscribe for Mod Showcases and New Release 4K Gaming || Fallout: New Vegas Mod - Powder Ganger Overhaul by Dragbody |https://www.gunetwork.org/t15181-fnvr. Eddie holds the key to the Average locked room, which contains a substantial stash of ammunition and explosives. I did the same when I reached novac and got shunned and now everyone attacks me on sight. Gangers quest is buggedbadly. They tell me to get lost most of the time, but if being vilified by NCR meant attacked on sight, you pretty much would have to stay away from civilization altogether. They disappear completely from the storyline after the opening area. Fallout: New Vegas The NCR, Mr. House, and Caesar's Legion are battling it out for control of New Vegas. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Fallout:_New_Vegas_reputations#Gaining_reputation_points_9. Worsen the condition of an injured Boomer at the. IMO the best good guy plan is to not finish Ghost Town Gunfight until you do I Fought the Law. Chet can actually store some good crafting parts, some rarer mods, and for some reason I often see him keeping around a bunch of Caravan cards. Reputation is separated into two categories: Fame and Infamy. However, any faction that was hostile towards the Courier will remain so, despite the change. Please present your passport. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. Funny / Fallout: New Vegas Analysis Awesome Characters FanWorks Fridge Funny Headscratchers Heartwarming Laconic NightmareFuel Quotes ShoutOut TearJerker Trivia VideoGame WMG YMMV GameBreaker Haiku VideoExamples Create New They're dogs. Another advantage is that this mod causes less bloat, by altering less entries. Dropping to a neutral reputation status (black on table above) will allow for Arcade being recruited as a companion again, despite his possible angered departure beforehand which caused him to leave. (So they wouldn't fall off cliffs). I recently started playing new vegas(my first fallout game) and I had no idea that karma gets you shunned so I just stole most things. Reputation is specific to a certain group/location and is measured in both fame and infamy; you'll usually gain infamy if someone notices you committing a crime. Convinced the Omerta Thugs to leave peacefully (+2). Even if you earn rep they'll permanently hate you and shoot you on sight. Forever hated, lacking food, warmth, and sanity? However you will be offered truce once you will enter their camp unless your reputation with them is very bad in which case they will shoot you anyway. -spoilers-. I think that the game would have been much better suited if they had replace all the Powder Gangers with random raiders, Eliminated their two missions or at least the option to side with them, and then spent the extra time fixing glitches in the game. It's true that Powder Gangers are very useless. Speaking to him will initiate the I Fought the Law quest. I think with the NCR what people are saying is right: Shunned isn't enough for them to shoot on sight. You could try wearing a Powder Ganger outfit, sneaking into the building Eddie is in and using a Stealth Boy (the bodyguards and Eddie see through the disguise). I recently started a new play through of Fallout New Vegas, and i wanted to do some of the powder gangers quests because i had never done them before. If one has gained a reputation with them (whether good or bad) it will not reset to neutral if the player character equips a faction armor. Similarly, above the door of cell block A, a sign reads "cell block A J. Defend the NCRCF from the NCR attack, keep Eddie alive (+12). Leaders Unless this was patched in, then no. Accessing the "Squad Readiness Reports Terminal" on the front desk in the. Anyone know if this is supposed to happen or does it depend on how many Powder Gangers you yourself actually kill during the quest? Also im playing on the backwards compatible version for Xbox 1 so console commands arent an option. [Non-game 1][7][Non-game 2]. NCRCF (exterior)NCRPrisonAdministrationNCRPrisonBlockANCRPrisonBlockBNCRPrisonVisitorsCenter Info You can have minimum rep and some factions wont attack you provided you did a couple of good things for them (off the top of my head I think you can even be vilified and provided you didnt shoot anyone they'll just be really rude to you.). Additionally, Powder Gangers outside of the NCR Correctional Facility and the Powder Ganger camp south would originally attack them even with a neutral reputation if the player character gets too close to one, but this has been corrected in the latest patch to the game. In my current game I have become vilified by NCR and they don't attack me on sight. Blew up the monorail and succeeded in framing a scapegoat to secure Ronald Curtis' cover (+12). [Non-game 1][6] The inmates were tasked with maintaining a railroad alongside the Long 15 under military supervision, keeping the vital link between the Boneyard and New Vegas alive. It's true that Powder Gangers are very useless. In the table below, these are colored green, black, and red respectively. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. For more information, please see our If one follows the I Fought the Law questline, they are given the chance to storm the base with the NCR or help the Powder Gangers defend it against the NCR. The combined effects of the two scales result in an overall reputation that is either positive, neutral, or negative. My game is unlucky enough to be severely bugged when it comes to the Powder Gangers so Im real weary now when it comes to something to do with my . Anyway to undo it. If any neutral (black in table above), but at least one instance of positive reputation had been gained, or better, Additionally, one can be granted access to the. Even if the player character is idolized by the Boomers, the doctor will not provide them any medical attention, saying that he needs any supplies left to treat the wounded. This location is ideal for player housing, particularly during. Basically the same problem I had. Unlike other items in his inventory, pickpocketing the key will never fail as long as the player character is hidden. You currently have javascript disabled. He can either be convinced to "move on" with 30 Speech skill or killed. Hostile is different. Fallout: New Vegas location He is a mild-mannered ex-sheriff who will engage in conversation with the player character. Credits BUt that was only after I had only killed the powder gangers in good springs and a 2-3 more on the way between Primm and NCRCF. All of these will be compatible with this mod. NCR hit squads will warn the player character to change their reputation with NCR within three days or they will come after them, trying to kill the player character. Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America). What's the point of being fanatical about something that's overall trivial if the attitude is going to be "Y'know, you should be as obsessive as I am as well as know and remember everything I do." New vegas has two settings, rep and hostility. Hannigan ", Fast traveling to this location can result in a group of wild dogs spawning and attacking if the Courier does not have the. Fallout Wiki is a FANDOM Games Community. For example, if killing a Powder Ganger while wearing a uniform of theirs, it might reset all faction reputations. The one exception is the Brotherhood of Steel: Only Mister Sandman works, as even silenced weapons and C-4 will cause the Brotherhood to turn hostile. There's absolutely no reason to be friendly with the Powder Gangers since their quests are pretty awful, and you don't get any decent swag. Originally, any faction member could be killed without loss of reputation, though only if the player character remained [HIDDEN] or in [CAUTION] for the kill without it progressing to [DANGER]. It may take a couple of times but I always do it if I start on the side of Goodsprings. You can loot one from Joe Cobb. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. A small, sleepy town that can quickly become an ally; or an enemy. Using faction armor, it is possible to gain a higher reputation than would be possible. But I do like betraying the PGs and assaulting the prison in that one quest though. Speak to Julie again about donating a certain chem after at least nine doses have been donated, resulting in her mentioning that they now have a surplus of that chem, regardless of whether more is then given, as the dialogue itself is what triggers the Fame boost (+2, maximum of +6, once all three chems are in surplus). Also, once the reputation of 'Wild Child' is earned, there is no ability to change it at all. Activate the self-destruct sequence of the Hidden Valley bunker (-100). At this point, the player character can choose to either kill Pearl (which will drop their reputation with the Boomers to Vilified) or fulfill their promise.