The cover bends over your hand while holding it. I will make my position clear in the hope that it may somehow smooth out any upset if indeed there is any. Kind Regards to all brothers and sisters in Christ, As far as the Quentel, it is a large Bible. For safety concerns, earbuds are not permitted and this means that environment can be raised to quite a cacophony of discord in metal, heavy metal type music?? Im glad to see this document is included. NASB (New American Standard Bible) New American Standard Bible 2020 (NASB) Thank you Trying to decide if its worth it to make the investment. With kind thoughts, In regards to the comments about the thickness of the textblocks and the paper, the measurement (GSM) from what I understand pertains to weight. Schuyler has produced the Westminster with all the bells and whistles you would expect in a premium edition - goatskin leather, edge-lined, stitched, art-gilt edges, and 4 thick ribbons. However my issue is that the verse numbers are so small that it is difficult to locate them while preaching. I havent decided yet. It doesnt have footnotes. You can see the blue through the silver and it has a very fine spotty pattern. . The longprimer has a much better verse separation with big bold print. I think that most printing is indeed done overseas, this is due to the lamentable cost of labor and material here in the United States of America probably more than for any other reason. With that said, how would you compare the color Antique Mahogany with the Brown on the Allan Longprimer? Calfskin leather binding. The format that TBS has in common with the Schuyler will be wonderful for those who prefer a softer cover. I wish that they were produced here in the US, but that is not a big problem for me. Now available in two major translations -- the ESV and NASB -- with the potential for more on the way, the Quentel has been designed from the ground up by 2K/Denmark as the ultimate double-column reference Bible, printed and bound in the . They dont have plans to bind them again. 100% Satisfaction ~ Pre-Owned C $214.37 Buy It Now +C $25.43 shipping estimate from United States Sorry for the long question but I want to ask a couple of people that have actually handled both options. Are you certain that it will be slightly smaller than the Quentel? I have a question I am hoping you can help me with. And, from what I understand a minimum print run of books/bibles is somewhere between 500 1000 copies. Heavier paper - 38 GSM Bible paper. While observing this, noticed a little gap at the head and foot of the textblock where there was a trace of separation between it and the bottom side of the liner flange towards the hinge. a smaller radius. John, Schuyler Bible's first KJV was their own production of the TBS Westminster. Free Thompson Chain-Reference Bible Webinar by Randy A Brown | Jun 28, 2022 | 0 . The Westminster Reference Bible is an extensive reference Bible that is very reasonably priced for a Bible printed and bound by Jongbloead in the Netherlands with a soft and luxurious Meriva calfskin cover. Its like an Allan without the yapp, and also with the same Schuyler binding style. The drop caps are decorative, and the color of the ink is easy on the eyes. There also seems to be somewhat of a difference in price between what the customer pays for goatskin vs. calfskin. Your total cost would be the same as the Schuyler, but you wouldnt have to pay the bulk of it for many years. The text is printed in two-column format with references on the outer and inner margins. . John has raised some valid points about current quality standards in publishing. I wonder how easy or safe it is to get any bible in Iran for instance or if that government would even allow a site/blog like this one. It is mandatory to procure user consent prior to running these cookies on your website. The Schuyler does droop more when single hand holding, but it is not all that bad. Allan NIV1 BL (Classic Reference Edition) Bible. Same tint of the paper. I wonder what text version is provided here. When hand holding with the spine or tailband horizontal and you tilt or rotate the spine upwards toward a ~45 degree angle, either left or right side, you can feel a wobbleness (sic?). I would recommend the examination of Allans and LCBPs craftsmanship as examples to study and emulate. To each of us as hath been given light or delusion. I hold the Bible the same way you do. And since I consider myself more of a textblock and paper guy Im glad you touched on the opacity issue between the Schuyler and the TBS, which I believe you noted no noticeable difference or improvement in ghosting? Rated 5 out of 5. by Rick . It has sections headings, references in the footer, and red chapter and verse numbers (that could change, but thats what the current layout is showing). Hi Norm. Schuyler KJV Canterbury Bible. Ie is the text block better on the schuyler. Well I have waited a few days to give a proper opinion of the Schuyler KJV. It might be a while before they know for sure. Anyway some great work for $98 shipped according to the receipt I found in the bible when it arrived. However I have been considering the Prof. Horner Bible Reading plan and I really like his theory of getting very comfortable or imprinting one bible to help memorize and access the scripture. They are a combination of John Browns Self Interpreting Bible and the Concord. Purchase Details. All this was carried out in a skilled and meticulous manner with what was on hand, although my hands-on experience is not of the book binding trade. I actually enjoy that cracking sound you referred to myself. The buttero calfskin isnt as floppy, but I like it better than Allan gostskin. Ive been in various fields of manufacturing for slightly over forty years, so these types of things am geared to notice, looking beyond the glitter of goatskin covers, etc. Yet, history is replete with countless examples where his protection did not extend to the saving of the physical lives of His faithful, even those that sang praises of joy as their lives were extinguished in the most horrible manners and remained steadfast to their final breath. They seemed rather lifeless to me. And I believe youll find that EVBIBLE (Schuyler) consistently sells bibles from various publishers cheaper than most other online retailers. The bibles and the businesses that produce and market them are real assets to the Christian community at large and deserve at least prayer, and in the case of the ministries, support as the Lord leads individuals to give. There is an overcast line of stitching in the front and the back. A nice shade I think. I have never seen such a pathetic example of the placement of ribbons in a bible. This single bad page was such it was noticeable from the outside as the creases lifted or supported the pages above it. Commentary here is simply the tightly focused and measure of physical workmanship. In many cases actually cheaper than bibles that were sold in the 80s. I agree with you on the soft covers, which do not work very well on larger a sized bible, although the Goatskin on the Schuyler is heavier/thicker than the Calfskin on the LCBP. This is not meant to be harsh, but realistic and candid. 11 point Milo font PDF Sampler. It has perimeter stitching and a yapp (overhang to protect the page-edges). The front cover on the Schuyler due to the LARGE hinge radius will not lay as flat against the text block as it will the on TBS, nor as it does as on the Allan Longprimer or Clarendon. VENDRE! Allan Oxford wide margin- obviously for writing. If someone blended a Clarion with a Thompson Chain, the Schuyler is what they would end up with. The goatskin seems flawless in its general pattern. I dont know how this thread beginning with an outstanding review by Randy, has turned into a discussion of the merits of various publishers and marketers of Gods Word. However, I could never be so adventurous as to purchase another Schuyler and it should be obvious that I had no intention of sending this one back (if so it would have been for a refund this time) before meddling into fixing the irritation! Hi Jason. The verses do not appear on a new line. I could be wrong but I dont think it would be significantly longer. Norm. This is apparent in almost every product marketed in this country, Ive in my 72 years witnessed it time and time again. I contributed absolutely nothing, although at one time I believed I did. So I guess until it does, it is as you so eloquently and humorously put it in harmony with the times. I suspect it may last longer than the leather version. Hopefully, but not expectantly, whoever handles this aspect of Schuylers bindery, will correct this area of concern that I worked on and will do something about the egregious characteristics of the front joint that causes it to lift so much from the text block before it finally settles against it around 2.5 inches to the right of the joint. Free shipping. At worse, if they consider this a normal craftsmanship variation, most likely will return it regardless of a restocking fee. Most Bibles would not include chapter 38 at the top of the page. You can see the very distinct difference between these areas on the bottom (good) versus the front (poor) if your sample is like mine and am sure this is no exception. $57.59. All turned out well with this reconstructive, aesthetic surgery. 55,000 Cross References Concordance Glossary of King James Terms Schuyler Bible Maps . Paragraph format with bolder verse numbers would have been nice, but thats a matter of the layout from TBS and their target audience. Only in the past year have I bought any new bibles. Having said this I am aware of others who disagree. What effect this has on small businesses like Schuyler/EV Bible I cant say as I dont know how many give one time love offerings or regular tithes to the ministries. Is it error for this blessing, to exalt His Word in visible beauty by the talents God bestowed upon His instruments that print His wondrous Word for those that are His? Schuyler KJV Canterbury - Overview. All in goatsking ecxept the longprimer 52. I have just received my Schuyler KJV and am not enamored over a couple things which I will address with other comments in a new reply later. Ive heard good things about their customer service and I know their goal is the highest quality possible. The big issue is the ribbons. Great size as well. Also, when hand holding the TBS, can insert by big finger between the text block spine and the covers spine!!! I am looking for a new bible and I think I have it narrowed down to two or three options. $270.00 + $17.10 shipping. With that said, my wife has used the calfskin TBS as her daily Bible since I reviewed it in January of 2013. I recently received the 2nd generation Schuyler KJV in purple, and Im totally pleased with it. For the price it would be hard to beat and I wouldnt mind marking in it. KJV Schuyler Treveris Holy Bible Black Goatskin Full Yapp. Everything is in good order on the bottom side alignment of the liner/flange cutout and the attachment of the cover liner to textblock is well effected. Is it true the Schuyler Westminster is being discontinued? Not real sure of who you are referring to specifically, but I have gone back and reread what I had written and I did not see anything specific which would give anybody the idea that I was upset. The margins contain lots of references and notes, which include alternate translations from Greek and Hebrew, definitions of archaic words or words that have changed meanings, money, etc. Since the text blocks are the same, and the TBS cover is quite adequate other than mentioned above, you can buy three of them for one of the Schuyler; a not insignificant consideration. Verse numbers would be even better, but that could get messy. I think its great someone can buy three quality bibles for the price of a Schuyler, but with all due respect I cant help but question the comparison. I figure I can try out the text block without the expense of the Schuyler. I ended up with the black because hey its a King James Bible, but after looking at your pictures I must admit the Mahogany is a real beaut. I would have liked an index to maps. That is exactly what I was seeing from the photos. LSB Inside Column Reference Bible Review. It is edge-lined and perimeter-stitched for the highest quality binding possible. !, I am disappointed, but somewhat numb to it all, so no big deal, but feel it all merits mentioning.